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#44383 11/03/04 12:49 AM
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I have a long run (1300') of PVC for some decorative lighting along a driveway. The lamps will be spaced about 130' apart. I'm wondering what the experience is regarding expansion/contraction of the PVC conduit. I know the temp down at 4' or so is pretty constant, but at 2' I'm not so sure it's constant. I certainly don't want any fittings to pull apart. Above ground, expansion fittings would be mandatory.

#44384 11/03/04 01:16 PM
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InspectorE,
300.5(J) ground movement,
and 300.7(B) expansion fittings.
I'm assuming that you are in a zone 3 or 4.(did a google on "frost zones")
I personally probably would not bother with the expansion fittings if you can get down to 48"...like you said, it should stay a constant 55°
anything less than 4', I would put one every 50-100'. 352.44(A) (let's say in the summer the earth is an even 55°, and in the winter it is 32°., so 1.01 inches per 100'.)

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for conduit that is buried, you will not have to be concerned about expansion fittings.

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#44386 11/03/04 11:12 PM
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Check Carlon literature, UG is OK without exp. joints. But, you must be stubbing 'up' at the fixture locations, No??

You may get ground heaving conditions by/at the stubs.

BTW, if you have concern, I do not know of any prohibition (NEC) or mfg that says you cannot install exp joints if you want.

John


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#44387 11/04/04 12:07 AM
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There will be lantern posts (5' high or so?) every 130'. Since it is underground, it has to be wet rated wire, so I'm not too concerned about any leakage/condensation inside the conduit. Stubs will have to be brought up to the posts, that's correct. Fortunately, the lamps are only 25 w or so, the voltage drop won't be a big factor.


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