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#44376 11/04/04 07:35 PM
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Hi,
I did not see any deception on the EC's part but maybe I missed something. Are you talking about the fact that he buried the cable? I did not see that as decpetion...maybe I read it wrong.. but I will just butt out so I do not rile anybody.

regards

Mustang

#44377 11/04/04 07:35 PM
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Dave, I hadn't thought about that, but it's an excellent point.

Roger

#44378 11/04/04 11:17 PM
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Mustang, you are not getting me riled up so please feel free to speak.

The EC intentionally buried the GEC, installed the PVC and left it empty. He told me straight up he didn't install the GEC for me or any other Cell companies because he didn't feel we engineers knew what we were doing.

Look at it another way, suppose I had to pull a permit, and the AHJ caught it before I did, seen the plans, then heard the excuse. Red tag period, and would probable remembered his name.

Roger is correct, I am the engineer plus the PM, estimator, and inspector. So I am fairly familiar with the details.

Edited to correct spelling



[This message has been edited by dereckbc (edited 11-04-2004).]

#44379 11/04/04 11:55 PM
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Communications work has special design requirements, and this is where the EC has to follow the plans as designed, if he finds any condition, that appears improper, it is best to document the problem and submit it to the Engineer in charge for review, but don't make any changes on your own.
Common bus system for communications , may differ depending on the equipment configuration power requirements and frequency.
The engineers, that work in these fields know all the special requirements, and for him to comment that the engineers din't know jack about grounding din't help his cause, If he thought there was a problem with the grounding, he should have brought it to the engineers attention, and discussed it with him, not just make his own changes.

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