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#35200 03/08/04 12:08 AM
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I noticed something else in the ad. It says "UL approved"- I don't think they have actually APPROVED stuff in many, many years; items are LISTED, I believe. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.


No wire bias here- I'm standing on neutral ground.
#35201 03/08/04 12:45 AM
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It would be WAY too easy for DIY'ers to seriously abuse/misuse the application of it.

That holds true for almost everything electrical-related that I've seen either directly or courtesy of this forum.

NM cable being connected to male and female cord-caps to make extension cords.

Handi-boxes being used as portable cordsets.

Circuit breakers with tie-wraps shoved into them.

Fuse-holders bridged with tin-foil, a piece of 12AWG wire. Screw-plug holders with slugs.

Extension cords being passed through holes in the wall or roof and wrapped on trees.

"Repaired" paper-lined metal-shell lampholders that have had the interior mechanism wrapped in MASKING TAPE because the original cardboard shell rotted away (I still have it around here somewhere). [Linked Image]

The list goes on.

Also, keep in mind any DIY-er can buy from an electical supply house.

#35202 03/08/04 12:54 AM
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Where Has the pride and craftsmanship gone?
I would never put my name on anything like this.

#35203 03/08/04 05:36 PM
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The terminal box is designed to use 10,12, and 14 awg NM and in doing so is able to handle 30 amps, and the buss bars don't even get warm. The integrated wire clamps are designed to withstand a veritcal pull of 60 lbs, the same as the clamps on any U.L. approved junction box. Has anyone had to put 5 or more #12 together with wire nuts? A few OHM's makes a lot of heat and the terminal box makes perfect connections every time. Someone mentioned it looks like it came from the 70's, well if you think about the type of wiring that was done at that time the terminal box is a perfect replacement.

#35204 03/08/04 05:50 PM
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To the question from jim m, the pictures are demo so people can get the concept.

#35205 03/09/04 04:34 AM
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is that switch in the picture for testing the breaker, because it appears that if if you turn it on, it will result in a dead short [Linked Image]

as for the product, i don't know if it would be a big improvement for new construction, because even though some time is saved on wiring the devices, you would most likely end up using more wire, and it takes more time to run and secure the additional wire

However, this could be very helpful in retrofit situations, in which there is normally one wire dropped down the wall from the attic or pulled up from the basement to each outlet. often these are joined in overstuffed junction boxes above or below each room. in this situation, since all of the wiring is being run anyways, a time saving device such as this would be a great benefit.

#35206 03/09/04 07:45 AM
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Yeah, that switch wiring DOES look suspicious!!!

Maybe the 2005 Code is going to require IFCI branch-circuit "protection" in certain situations. IFCI = Intentional Fault Circuit Interrupter [Linked Image]


No wire bias here- I'm standing on neutral ground.
#35207 03/09/04 10:03 AM
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I, personally don't like it...I'll stick to wire-nutz and 1900 boxes,when I need to splice a line that will be accessable... thank you... [Linked Image] [Linked Image] [Linked Image]
AR


.."if it ain't fixed,don't break it...call a Licensed Electrician"
#35208 03/09/04 03:41 PM
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SirArcalot said
"I noticed something else in the ad. It says "UL approved"- I don't think they have actually APPROVED stuff in many, many years; items are LISTED, I believe. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong."


The System is Underwriters Lab Tested, Approved and, Listed .This information will be linked to wire-easy.com when it becomes available


DonT wire nuts, wire-easy.com
#35209 03/09/04 04:33 PM
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Regarding the switch, if I'm looking at the correct picture, I don't see any problem. It appears that the switch is in the middle of a run - line enters the bottom of the box, load exits from the top...? [Linked Image]

I'm assuming this is some type of mockup, for demonstration purposes...

Mike (mamills)

[This message has been edited by mamills (edited 03-09-2004).]

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