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Good post, :andy: ( https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/003602.html )

Might talk to my foreman to see what he thinks. Maybe I'll throw a bag or two in the box for future try out.

Thanks to everyone for the input!

“…those who use a battery drill - they get carried away twisting…” said U2*.

{Oy vey. I must live under a rock.}

@ DougW

if you want to use only solid wires on them, you can use the "standard" wagos. i estimate them to be way cheaper than the ones with the release mechanism. if you want to use stranded, i would recommend these.

the only thing you have to watch when you make changes on the standard push-ins, is not to losen the other wires when turning. i always push the others back in to assure no one came out.

[This message has been edited by :andy: (edited 01-10-2004).]

For Bjarney:
I too lived under a rock, until I saw the results of a "hot shot" with a battery drill.




This guy was also supposed to use Scotchcote, not tape, and a #10 ground to the GFI recp, but was too much of a speed demon to get it out of the job box.
He's gone, now...S

[This message has been edited by electure (edited 01-11-2004).]

Just to add fuel to the fire... I started using wagos about three years ago for certain applications. I use them exclusively for lay in fixtures (along with Arlinington snap in MC connectors). It really speeds the up the process when your installing several hundred lights. My cost is about the same for a red wire nut but time is the big factor....(more fuel) since we are pretwist company.

The have come in handy to when doing device change outs and the previous electrician has left too little conductor in the box to work with and there's no way to repull.

Now dont get me wrong, I still prefer the wire nut. BUT i do feel these connectors have a spot in our world.

I tried sending a pic, but it never came through.

Guess this topic is approaching a moot point, unless I want to take the time to remove the ones that come pre-installed...

At least, that's what I found when I picked up 2 HALO cans... little orange 3-conductor push-connectors, pre-installed.

Less of a hassle than I'd anticipated - both for install, and for removal.

Oh well... evolve or die!

Doug,

Sorry about that. After reading this I went looking and found your 'Picture Share' Email. I'm not used to getting Pictures by Phone and can easily miss them because they don't show up as attachments.

Anyway, here's the picture:

I really have not seen those on the self in canada yet.judging from the replies here it looks like for certain applications they would be okay.Sort of reminds me of my old radio hobby days when we used these wire clips. http://home.earthlink.net/~wb5rex/xtalman/kits.html

[This message has been edited by dougwells (edited 03-09-2004).]

Just a question regarding your vernacular here, gentlemen,....what in tarnations is a "WAGO",and what does it stand for...is it an acronym...or..???
As a rule,anything that you "push-in" to make a connection in my book is LOUSY,(ie; back-stabbing receptacles)..especially if there is a substantial load factor associated with it..Fluor.ballasts are another issue,tho',because the loads on these conductors are in the miliamps, so I do use the Ideal "suitcase" style push-in connectors for ballast replacements ONLY....
AR



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