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#26595 06/27/03 02:59 PM
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[This message has been edited by US Coreman (edited 06-27-2003).]

#26596 06/27/03 03:01 PM
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While watching HGTV's Designers Challenge last night, an interior designer, as well as the homeowner, remodeled their master bath. The owner wanted a real "vintage" fixture for over the tub. They chose a real, late 1900's, crystal chandiler. They placed it over the tub. It was within reach of someone standing within. Clearly a violation of 2002 NEC 410.4 (d). I'm sure that there were no permits on the job, and no inspection.

Interior designers are fine, but they seem to place esthetics in front of common sense, and dealing with codes and laws.

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#26597 06/27/03 05:20 PM
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Thanks for the link Dave. I'm afraid that South_40 seems to have fallen into the "electricity always tries to get to ground" trap, although that How Stuff Works page doesn't exactly do much to set the record straight, does it? [Linked Image]

There seemed to be a bit of confusion over the voltages on his 480V delta system too!

#26598 06/27/03 11:09 PM
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daveb yeah i do agree with you but main moot point that some other person on the other forum dont really get the grasp about the grounding and etc related with safety what we spend alot of time to read the nec and some of the other member in the other forums really get the message hard all we did try to steer it right but unforenlty some are hard head i wish we can meet that person in face to face to explain the fact in nice way but really some peoples just dont grasp the simple rules we deal with it


merci marc


Pas de problme,il marche n'est-ce pas?"(No problem, it works doesn't it?)

#26599 06/28/03 12:15 AM
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Marc
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Its just that sometimes they have been taught certain things and are totally unwilling to accept that things may actually be different. Im sure that every one of those guys in that forum are great in person.. and meeting face to face with some drawings as well as a discussion would help greatly.

Safety is the main point and I think it is very hard to explain some things using forums like these. Its even harder when the persons reading the posts are untrained individuals.

#26600 06/28/03 12:31 AM
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Well I sent them an e-mail explaining the possible dangers of their statements on the show.

Their reply was something to the effect of they would forward my message to their program director.

Disclaimer at the bottom of the page said " Information or ideas expressed on these shows carry no guarantees of fitness for a particular purpose, blah blah
blah. What a crock!

#26601 06/28/03 08:26 AM
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Hang on for a second, guys.
What is the Neutral in the US tied to, at the switch-board?.
It may be different in the US, to a certain extent, but ALL power systems are referenced to EARTH, for safety reasons!.
This is why a fuse blows when a 110kV line hits the ground, with no earth return, this would not happen!.
Hey, I only come from New Zealand, what do I know. [Linked Image]

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