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This is probably a silly question. I am adding an outlet to a circuit in my garage. I'm putting up 1/2" plastic conduit and it will have some 45 degree bends in it to get around a drain pipe. I'm using one #12/2 NM for the new run. Is it o.k. to use just a drop of liquid soap, like Dial or something, to help get that wire through the pipe? I wasn't sure if it would harm anything or go against any code.

Thanks!

Ian

There is a lubricant specifically made for this purpose. I believe it's water-based so it won't damage the insulation...

I've read not to use soap or vaseline or any such make-shift pulling lubes...because they may react with the wire's insulation and slowly decay it.

not to mention soap will set up like concrete inside that conduit so if you ever have a problem or want to change something you are SOL!

SvenNYC and jlhmaint;

Thanks for the info! It's only a five foot length of pipe, but I wanted to make sure I didn't cause any problems by using soap. Thanks again!

Ian

It's not worth it to go out and buy a tube of wire pulling lube, just to sleeve a piece of NM 5 feet. Just strip most of it and it should go right through. Maybe if you know a sparky, he will give you some.

The UL Directory includes the following information on the type of material that should be used in order to show compliance with the requirements of the NEC.

Before factory made lubs, the accepted method was Lux Flakes or Ivory Flakes. No damage was ever reported and the residue after drying was powdery. I used them many times working with my Dad and Brothers.
Rowdy