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#2115 06/23/01 11:36 AM
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I just saw a show (House Doctor) where they used a tic-tracer to check a receptacle to make sure the power was off, and then took down a ceiling light. Other such DIY shows have the "experts" perform all kinds of safety and code violations (how about a recp cover/key hanger combo?). I think this is irresponsible and possibly deadly. I'm firing off an e-mail to HGTV. Anybody else have any ideas??

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electure;
those shows really turn me off. send 'em a virus while your at it!

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We have such a person up here, who actually painted 'house doctor' on the side of an old ambulance, did'nt even remove the lights.
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At least 1 show often recommends hiring a Licensed electrician(I think its Hometime).
Others do seem to be fast & loose with the how-tos. I guess its just a matter of time before the lawsuits begin.
Oh well, what do you expect from shows where half the work is performed by chicks.(Ouch!)


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I flinch when I watch most of these shows. It comes down to the old saw " advice is worth exactly what you're paying for it." In this case, nothing.


Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.
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Iremember seeing an on-the-show electrician drop a drill into an aquarium to demonstrate GFCI's. I thought that was rather bold. (sounds like something I'd do out of curiosity, but not on a DIY TV show...)

The show was "Give Me Shelter" I think, and other than that, I was resonably impressed with his advice.


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Originally posted by sparky66wv:
Iremember seeing an on-the-show electrician drop a drill into an aquarium to demonstrate GFCI's. I thought that was rather bold. (sounds like something I'd do out of curiosity, but not on a DIY TV show...)

The show was "Give Me Shelter" I think, and other than that, I was resonably impressed with his advice.

If he would of done that with a double insulated, ungrounded tool he would have had poached fish. As fresh as can be.

#2122 06/23/01 10:05 PM
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It was a modern 3/8" DeWalt... I assume it was a double-insulated two-wire plugged drill...


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A double insulated, ungrounded tool in an aquarium would either trip the GFCI because there was a path to ground through something else in the tank, or a little electrolysis would be going on turning the water into hydrogen and oxygen.

Electric can't flow where there is no pathway. You would just see bubbles.

How could the fry fry?

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I dont see a ground return path unless it was contrived for the show.

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