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Joined: May 2003
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Hey Doug
Hope you had a great weekend.
That is an interesting tip. You mentioned you clip the wire to the receiver did you mean the transmitter?
Let me know and I'll add it to the list of tips. Take care and thanks for the feedback. Oops I did mean the Transmitter 
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Hotline1 ("John");
I have to say that Scott deserves an award for eloquence for the above detailed descriptions!!
Danka!!!    The desire to post replies with elaboarte details is coming back again! --Scott (EE)
Scott " 35 " Thompson
Just Say NO To Green Eggs And Ham!
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Received my toner on Friday.
THANKS Ron.
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Hey Folks
Thanks for all the feedback on toner and probes. There were actually quite a few good suggestions. It has simply become a tester really anyone in the electrical / electronic industries should have.
Be looking for the tips on my YouTube channel!
Ron Kipper RCDD / NTS
IDEAL Industries Inc
Ron Kipper Datacomm on YouTube
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Hi how do I get a toner to find a shorted mc cable buried in sheetrock, Do I have to remove the cable connector from the panel to seperate the shield?
I have one circuit to lights that works and the black lead is shorted to the white and green ground, Most of the baseboard plugs have been rewired with either romex or mc.
I want to get a better idea on location before I start opening sheetrock or lath and plaster upstairs.
Thanks Chris
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The toner I have is a Ideal 62-100 and probe 62-104, I only have one red conductor that I assume is seperate, since that 1/2 still works
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Joined: Jul 2004
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The best way to find the bad spot (nail strike or whatever) behind the drywall is time domain reflectometry. If you don't have the machine or an oscilloscope you probably have to rent/borrow one.
Greg Fretwell
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I've got a ShortStop unit, but it does the same as toner, my question is do I have to have two open conductors for it to work, or tone, I. e. one hot conductor and do I need to separate my return/white and green bond metal jacket by removing leads and metal clad from panel box. seems to negate tone when I connect black lead to return white wire or can.
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Trying to trace the jacket to find where the cable runs, as the inner conductors dont seem to tone past the metal jacket. And all metal boxes are closed behind walls, if buried? No wiring notes exist from original installation. Already tried with power off and tone just the hot and white at panel of suspect circuit.
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My Greenlee toner emitted clean thru MC on the occasions that I needed it.
I've never seen the Ideal unit in action.
Tesla
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