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I like it except for the 30A part...

A 30A 120V recept? Or Am I supposed to split the busses on a 240V circuit?!?!?!

I've asked them for ALL voltages, I am only assuming 120V on the 15A's and 20A's.

I'll find out soon enough...Maybe...

[This message has been edited by sparky66wv (edited 06-23-2001).]

>at the main stage I need two circuits, one 30 amp for front of house system and one 20 amp circuit for the on stage monitor system.
Make sure your outlets have the right prongs.

>and be PROPERLY PHASED so as to avoid ground loops.
If she says so. Does she mean properly wired?

>POWER SHOULD DRAW FROM THE OTHER BUSS SO AS TO AVOID SYSTEM NOISE
You can't avoid it all.

What she really needs is an SDS so that there is a separate transformer to eat the noise.

Can they afford a surge suppressor right in the panel? Put it on a dedicated 20 A double pole breaker. Get one of those expensive ones that tightly tracks the waveform. You can't be too careful in a cow pasture.

>A 30A 120V recept?
There is such a beast.


>Or Am I supposed to split the busses on a 240V circuit?!?!?!
I would say not. But I don't know what you mean either.


[This message has been edited by Dspark (edited 06-23-2001).]

I do realize that 120V 30A recepts exsist... (RV's) I was merely asking if it was likely that it was what she meant.. Of course, she is the only one to know.

It would be a special order item here...guaranteed.

I was being sarcastic on splitting the busses... there's no way to split up two 240V circuits so that they don't share a buss....DUH! (Not meant to insult)

66'
A customer with a detailed request ! I'm jealous!
So, are you going to construct a 200A temp service? Will it be a one time fee rental?

will you allow us to get all coded out on you?

Will this be an art 305 and/or 525 venture?
I like you 'dedicated' idea via 525-18(b),and could (c) be taken to mean your there , toolbelt on, fluke in hand?

Virgil,
IMHO, I should think you'd want to use Twistlock recps wherever you can. Not only will they give you a little more assurance of continuity of service, but the L5-30R (120/30) recp might be easier to get. But, then, there's the ? of $.

Yeah!

Oh definitely "Code Me"... If anything goes wrong I want to be covered...

And yes, I will be there, toolbelt on and fluke in hand... (A requirement of Clutch is an on-site sparky, besides, I wouldn't miss it. Clutch is a very good band, if you're into their style...like AC/DC meets Zappa with some angst thrown in...)

The 200A service and other parts not yet defined will be permanent. The "farmer" wants to do this every year with other bands if it is successful.

hmmmm;
Another Yazgood!
I would imagine permanent service would be a better sale, as there are probably some high $$$ needs that would 'rent' fairly $$$.

anyway, i suppose you now need to separate permanent from temp. Is the service close enough to all served ( or heaviest loads) to simply have a receptacle bank ?

if your present does 410-57(b)(2) apply? Gotta job every gig they do?

The Twistlocks are a great idea, I was already considering them...

The inuse covers are also expensive, and may not be necessary as per 410-57(B)(2) like you suggest.

Is SO cable the likely temp cable I can use?
It's very plentiful here... What with the mines and all...

What's the best way to guard the cables? Walkways (beer will be present...) will be hard to control, it's a big concern right now...I'd rather trench and bury everything, but you know how that i$.

I think I'll get to talk them in to trenching out to at least a few areas that will require more than a single 15A 120/240V circuit.

How much of a voltage drop can I accept?
The voltage is on the high side in most places here, usually 122 or 123V per leg.
Plays heck on cheap light bulbs... But gives a little headroom in voltage drop. Can I go as little as 115V? Or even 110V?

Many more questions will follow... Probably more and more with a hint of panic too!