ECN Forum Forums Code Related Discussion NEC & other Code issues Receptacle Spacings Revisited

George:
The key is how much 'overhang' is on the family room side with the bar stools?

John, the countertop is 18" and extends beyond the base cabinet about 12" allowing for bar stools and knee clearance.

By the book? I see that area requiring a receptacle.

"Convenience" receptacles can be anywhere from floor level to 5'5" up. Receptacles serving the countertop have to be within a foot of the counter top, and you're not allowed more than 6" overhang.

It's a bit of a leap of logic, but I see this as inferring a limitation on the convenience receptacle placement - it can't be within a foot of the counter level.

What if there's a 'bar rail' or foot rail? Does it now become 'furniture,' like a built-in bookcase, that does not get included in the placement rule? It just might.

Also, depending on the placement of the bar, I might consider the area as part of a hallway, with different spacing requirements. Of course, that opens a whole new paradox, as the bar area would otherwise be required to be both AFCI protected and on an SABC.

Don't you love it when code gets into design?

George, in a similar situation I ended up with 2 and I find I am using both of them.

It is better to have a receptacle and not use it than to need one and not have it.

I do think you need to follow the living room rule on the living room side.

I have had a renovation project going on here since 1984.