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Harold:

Have you seen the $$$$ for a field certification recently??

This thread has just made me realize just how big of a scofflaw I am ....

As I remodel my house, I have mounted many light fistures. They're simple keyless lampholders, attached to surface-mounted boxes, with a cord grip and a pigtail. They pluginto the 'temporary' receptacles I have also strung around the place.

Yup; DIY luminaires. Not a single one is a UL listed assembly.

Do you think that maybe the NEC has gone too far?

John,

No not really, I have never seen anything actually field listed. What would something like that cost? (If I might ask.)

Harold:
Recent quote from UL for Field Cert for buss modifications performed by the mfg to a piece of switchgear was $14500.00

Mod was installation of four (4) 14" buss extensions (3000 amp) with bracing.

Value of a UL listing? Just wait until tonight ... I'll start a new thread ... you won't believe the listed product I just found!

Might make you reconsider a few of your assumptions ....

Looking at this, I don't see how to get around the countertop receptacle requirements.. The backsplash is all lightbox and the cabinets are too high to use plugmold underneath and be considered countertop recepts. I'm guessing they just tied this into existing circuits that were present pre-remodel. Are there ANY places to plug appliances in? I also noticed an island counter which would need an outlet of two..


Was an electrician involved in the hook up of this setup to begin with?

RE: the absence of UL listing.. Would ETL be cheaper and acceptable? (They're the listing on the aftermarket Zinsco, Bulldog, FPE CB's...)

ETL - Intertek