0 members (),
504
guests, and
20
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 64
OP
Member
|
Does anyone know of a site where I can get a free copy of the 2011 NEC so I don't have to buy it?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,931 Likes: 34
Member
|
You can view it on the NFPA web site but it is a bit cumbersome.
Greg Fretwell
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,335
Member
|
I would recommend you buy the book and if you are really serious about an electrician career, buy the handbook. Despite their price, they are invaluable reference manuals to have on the jobsite and for future reference. Jot down notes, diagrams, etc in it and you will have them for all time
"Live Awesome!" - Kevin Carosa
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 64
OP
Member
|
I'll probably just end up buying it. Just wondering so I dont have to spend all of that money.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 356
Member
|
From my experience i would recommend the Hand book. I am sure some people will recommend the regular code book.
Be kind to your neighbor, he knows where you live
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,382 Likes: 7
Member
|
I agree with the above guys to spend the extra $ & buy the Handbook. It's a great 'tool' for both entry level (serious guys) and the rest of us.
I'm still trying to figure out why there seems to be no Handbook CD/DVD this cycle.
John
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,931 Likes: 34
Member
|
I am with you there John. I would like the CD handbook too.
How does the PDF compare to the CD version? I looked and NFPA wants the same for the download as they want for a hard cover book. That is ridiculous.
Greg Fretwell
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,382 Likes: 7
Member
|
Greg: I know I'm going to miss the '11 Handbook both at the office, and on my laptop.
The PDF, from the little time I have had to 'play', seems to be OK, but the lack of the explanatory & graphics from the Handbook are going to be a pain.
Like I said, I got it 'free' with the '11 Changes book.
BTW, the 'lack' of the Handbook CD should make my Twp bean counter happy; one less item to xitch about the cost of.
John
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 56
Member
|
Same with the CSA. They're charging the same price for CEC pdf as the actual book... you know, the one made of trees, plastic (oil), shipped by guy with his wage and fuel costs, ink.
It's like tiny +5Vdc is actually A THING with a price. I'm surprised they don't charge shipping too.
Some people need a ground.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,233
Member
|
I think (someone told me) that if you joined NFPA and with a special membership, you can not only view the NEC, but you can also download sections of the code book. Again, I heard this from a lic. Elec. inspector who worked in a hospital. They would do it, because they didn't have to get books every 3 years, but they were still able to access the code.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,382 Likes: 7
Member
|
Harold: You may be talking about the "NEC Plus" from NFPA.
Web access to the NEC, for a membership price I believe.
I still prefer a printed book to hold in my hands; but electronically, I prefer the NEC Handbook on CD/DVD.
John
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,445 Likes: 3
Cat Servant Member
|
Heck ... save some cash ... join the IAEI. Three years membership and you get a free NEC.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 5,392
Member
|
they do? i was a member for over a decade, sure it's not a chapter thing Reno?
~S~
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,445 Likes: 3
Cat Servant Member
|
It is most certainly an IAEI-wide offer.
You should have received a card this year to fill out; the only charge was for shipping. Call Texas and chat with them.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 3,682 Likes: 3
Administrator Member
|
It is most certainly an IAEI-wide offer.
You should have received a card this year to fill out; the only charge was for shipping. Call Texas and chat with them. Yup, $8.00 I think it was. Bill
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 5
New Member
|
If you join NFPA, there IS a members' discount. Also, depending on when your jurisdiction adopts the NEC®, the NFPA Catalog (or online) seems to reduce pricing somewhat as you go farther into the Code cycle, so you might save a little by holding out until when you actually need to apply the newest edition. I agree that the NEC® Handbook is worth the extra. Alternatively, for about $12/month or $113/year, NECplus online provides that information PLUS identifies the changes PLUS provides Formal Interpretations PLUS NFPA Staff notes. I use NECplus extensively, but it does have to be used on a computer because of the "panes" (no scrolling within a screen pane on an iPhone or iPad so far). Also FWIW you can pick up the CHANGES in the 2011 NEC® (versus 2008) on either your iPhone or Android smartphone for FREE; see http://necchanges.boopsie.com/ ; got to be loaded from your smartphone itself (or the app stores).
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 5,445 Likes: 3
Cat Servant Member
|
That member's "discount" is easily beat when you buy the code at your local supply house, through ECN, through the IAEI, or Mike Holt. No big savings there- and a membership dues far higher than any other 'professional association' I've encountered. As for the book "Analysis of Changes," that book is included in the price of any code-update seminar. We've posted here before: you want a wide choice of codes free, the internet is your friend. www.bulkresource.org That's the pl;ace to go.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,233
Member
|
I am a member of IAEI and NFPA and I do get a free NEC code book every 3 years.
John,
I did see NEC Plus and I bought the NFPA package this year which gives me 3 months of free NEC Plus. The other thing I was talking about was around years ago. Before NEC Plus, someone I knew joined NFPA and paid extra to have the privilege to be able to download sections of the NFPA codes.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 2,749
Member
|
Bill
It was for $10.00. I am waiting for it to be delivered soon.
Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 4,116 Likes: 4
Member
|
Bill
It was for $10.00. I am waiting for it to be delivered soon. Joe, I was referring to last code cycle (2011) I believe it was $8.00 Re: this cycle, I agree. $10.00 I'm waiting for mine to come as well. Bill
Bill
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 984 Likes: 1
Member
|
Mine came from IAEI last week.
Ghost307
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 1
New Member
|
.................................................
Last edited by Admin; 08/24/20 11:32 PM. Reason: Self promotion removed
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,382 Likes: 7
Member
|
This sure looks like 'advertising' to me.
John
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,931 Likes: 34
Member
|
So far I have been able to get the PDFs from NFPA on their web site but 2020 doesn't seem to be up yet. You can get the interactive one online. If you are willing to live with the Draft from the ROPs they go back at least to the 50s. I found them when I was researching that down sized ground in RX. I downloaded 56, 68 and 71 in that quest. I also have the real ones since 96 in various formats mostly PDF.
Greg Fretwell
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,382 Likes: 7
Member
|
I really miss the availability of the NEC & NEC Handbook on CD/DVD.
Life was good then.
John
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 8,443 Likes: 3
Member
|
I really miss the availability of the NEC & NEC Handbook on CD/DVD.
Life was good then. Hi John, Surely these days it would come on something like a USB stick for them net-books and other "devices" that don't have a CD/DVD drive? And I mean, I think I would sooner have a little case of USB sticks, than a case of CD's or DVD's, just because of vehicle motion scratching the CD's.
Last edited by Trumpy; 09/08/20 03:25 AM. Reason: Added last bit.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 7,382 Likes: 7
Member
|
Mike:
I would agree with you 100%, and take it on a USB stick, or copy it to a stick myself.
I still have a bunch of CDs & DVDs, and when I may need the data, I use my wife's Apple DVD/CD accessory drive. I's a pain, but you have to do what you have to do sometimes.
John
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 9,931 Likes: 34
Member
|
NFPA just was not happy that they were losing control of their product.
Greg Fretwell
|
|
|
Posts: 3,682
Joined: October 2000
|
|
|
|