#189126 - 09/21/09 08:48 AM
Re: ho-made power center?
[Re: Lostazhell]
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Wow! And this is outside too. 
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#189128 - 09/21/09 09:03 AM
Re: ho-made power center?
[Re: Lostazhell]
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Three wires from pole, three meters, three phase disconnect, black & white feeders to each group of outlets, each outlet fed with two green wires.
Any guess to what voltage is delivered to each outlet?
Is this a permanent "Temporary" power distribution set up for a holiday light festival?
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#189159 - 09/22/09 02:38 PM
Re: ho-made power center?
[Re: renosteinke]
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Why are the scorch marks on only a couple of the receptacles?
Edited by kale (09/22/09 02:39 PM)
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#189160 - 09/22/09 03:06 PM
Re: ho-made power center?
[Re: kale]
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An irreverent observation here: See the bushes behind the board? Someone spends a lot of time, and money, making their shrubs 'just right.' Just like the housewife who agonizes over 'just the right' cabinets for the kitchen. How is it that our work gets put in the 'leftover' pile? Now, it's always easy to laugh at the other guy. On this board are a LOT of receptacles. How would you make such a board? (Fair warning: I had to do this once  )
Edited by renosteinke (09/22/09 03:07 PM)
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#189164 - 09/22/09 05:53 PM
Re: ho-made power center?
[Re: renosteinke]
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Now, it's always easy to laugh at the other guy. On this board are a LOT of receptacles. How would you make such a board? Define the application and environment. How often used? Who is going to connect / disconnect? What are the expected loads? Who will have access to the finished assembly? where will it be installed?(geographical region)
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#189165 - 09/22/09 05:55 PM
Re: ho-made power center?
[Re: renosteinke]
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How would you make such a board? Umm, For a start, I'd be thinking about putting them rececpts in some sort of an enclosure or two, more than likely a weather-proof one, with a top-hinged lid so that the sockets can still be used with the cover in place. Secondly, there'd be some sort of point of attachment below the enclosures so that any flexes that were connected to the sockets could be supported, meaning that the sockets weren't carrying the wieght of the cord. Thirdly, all the wiring from the disconnect to the enclosures, would be in conduit. Just a question though, Is there really a need for 60 (30 x 2) repectacles, all in one place? This is just asking for a tripping hazard! 
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#189167 - 09/22/09 06:39 PM
Re: ho-made power center?
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Mike, those are some good points. Perhaps a piece of strut would serve as a tie-off for the cords, and help protect the plugs from strain should someone trip on a cord. Something like this:  Just wrap the cord around the strup on its' way to the outlet. As for the receptacles themselves, perhaps this wpould be a better solution: 
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#189182 - 09/22/09 08:58 PM
Re: ho-made power center?
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Hey guys, Do you think this is even in the United States? I just have a sneaking suspicion that this picture was taken "south of the border..." It is certainly an interesting way to meter things, using 3 meters like that. Makes me wonder what size fuses are in the disco...
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#189190 - 09/22/09 10:44 PM
Re: ho-made power center?
[Re: Lostazhell]
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[quote] Does anyone recognize the make of the disconnect? That also leads me to think this is some foreign jobbie The cover looks like a Siemens but not really sure,they do have "SIEMENS" embossed on the cover on domestic models, my guess is it is from Mexico, though. 
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#193251 - 03/23/10 09:51 PM
Re: ho-made power center?
[Re: NORCAL]
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Is it just me, or are two of those sockets on the right hanging out of their boxes?
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#193268 - 03/24/10 09:23 AM
Re: ho-made power center?
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Is it just me, or are two of those sockets on the right hanging out of their boxes? Good point! That whole bunch on the right doesn't look too solid, more like "1 screw missing and the other loose".
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#193380 - 03/29/10 09:15 PM
Re: ho-made power center?
[Re: Texas_Ranger]
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Good point! That whole bunch on the right doesn't look too solid, more like "1 screw missing and the other loose".
I think whoever came up with this whole mess has three screws missing and every other one loose!
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#193485 - 04/04/10 11:27 PM
Re: ho-made power center?
[Re: Trumpy]
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I did notice that, Mike. What I think happened is that there was a piece of SE cable coming down the "mast" that ran directly into the disconnect switch. Someone decided to add metering after the fact, which is when it went from really bad to really, really bad. I zoomed the view and it appears that the meter on the right shows some wires coming out of the upper-right corner.
Regardless, the whole thing stinks to high heaven. Why there are three meters on what appears to be a single-phase installation is beyond me.
I'm sure that this installation is in Mexico. I've seen work like that everywhere I look when I've been there. Scary to say the least.
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#198205 - 01/14/11 10:53 PM
Re: ho-made power center?
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