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Larry, that is a GE panel. GE makes their tandem "skinnies" that way, so that you can use them for a 220 circuit, or a MWBC. Indeed, they will not instal in any other position.
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Larry:
Yes, there should be two (2) GE 'skinny' blank-ups' in the cover. Or, there are two (2) open spaces in the cover (best bet).
As Reno said, the CB's have to go where they are to hit a&b buss. A good mechanic would have installed two (2) single pole skinnies to fill the buss space; the blank-ups were and still are a PITA
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Maybe it's just my computer monitor, but it looks like there is a TREMENDOUS amount of paint overspray in there. If so, what kind of shape are the breaker busses in? Mike, Your monitor is working correctly. The painters have hit town, they don't know "electric" unless their compressor is too big for the temporary, then you'll see the "tools" come out. As to the shape of the busses, they are a new shade of white, after all bare copper is dangerous, someone might get a shock. 
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they are holding that's all i can say.
Luke McCoy The NEC Crazy Boy
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It would take little effort to move those two tandem breakers up and then add another breaker to to fill in the gap.
The panel does appear to have a lot of white paint overspray. The hot wires look like neutral wires! The originally breakers were probably very white before they were thrown away.
Thanks for comments Ed. I don't see the range circuit bare neutral though. Is that the wire that is connected to the side of the largest lug (far left) of the neutral/ground bus? It looks coated, but that could be paint.
The panel feed is from the bottom left. It looks like there is a coated feed wire going to the neutral/ground bus (the big lug on the front row).
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It would take little effort to move those two tandem breakers up and then add another breaker to to fill in the gap. But the wires connected to one pair of the tandem breakers feeds a 240 V load. Moving the breakers up a 1/2 space will provide both wires the same phase. The connected device would rather see 240 V instead of 0 V. Larry C
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You're right Larry. If only one of the tandem breakers is for a 240V load, then that tandem could be replaced with a regular two-pole breaker, and then just move the other tandem to fill the last half-slot (hole). If both tandems are for 240V, then that would make four 240V loads in an apartment. I can only think of three common 240V loads, AC, clothes dryer & stove.
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