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Extra wires are a great idea for heading off just this type of problem.

Just remember to watch your fill ratio.
Standard wire fill in conduit is 40%, but the maximum wire fill in sealing fittings is only 25%.


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[quote=ghost307]You can do that if you can find NM that's rated for use in a Hazardous environment.

Besides, temporary fixes tend to never get done right. As soon as things are jerry-rigged to run, the urgency to getting the thing fixed correctly just sort of goes away. Just look at some of the 'temporary' horror stories on this board.

Those sealing fittings were not designed to have the stuff chipped out of them, so it's a royal PITA to do that.

My idea (NM) was not long term, only working time.

"1) First, it's not unheard of fo the seals to have never been sealed. Oops! In that case, thank heaven, and simply pull out the bad wires. Then pack the seals properly.

2) Often the fiber dam fails, resulting in the mortar-like sealant running down into the pipe, and setting up in some low spot. Shovel time! You get to dig up the pipe, usually to the first sweep.

3) Other times the rigid pipe will corrode, with flakes of rust or collapsed pipe making a new pull impossible. A related problerm - which might be the cause of your bad wire - is when compacting and paving operations break (or crush) the pipe.

4) Often, there is not enough room between pipes for you to cut or thread the old pipe in place. Again, in that case, you're best served by digging down to the sweep, and working down there."

All of the above.

So just in case, I wimped out.
Told him my insurance doesn't cover gas facilities.

Four tanks and the conduit as ground,kinda swayed me,I knew it would get more involved, the broken pipe scenario,He would pressure me to hack it in. So,Let a stranger be the bad guy.

Trying to save a relationship as well. I'll keep my work inside the building.

Besides,His brothers place is my main garage.

Thanx for the insite.

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Lee:
IMHO, leave the dispensers to the 'guys' that do them always.

No offense intended to you or the others, but....Article 514 locations are best left to those that do them regularly.



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Originally Posted by HotLine1
Lee:
IMHO, leave the dispensers to the 'guys' that do them always.

No offense intended to you or the others, but....Article 514 locations are best left to those that do them regularly.



I hear you 'Barking'!!

No offense taken! I am more offended by smoke going where it should not,than the truth!!!


Thanx to all!!! smile

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