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#18402 12/09/02 11:32 PM
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Well, I could do it myself, but I don't have the time. Plus, I want something that will help me stand out over my competition, and I know those "free" and do-it-yourself sites always look like a 10-year old did them.

From what I'm hearing, it seems like $500 out the door for their product is a great deal compared to what others are charging.

I'm going to go check out their refernces and more samples, and I'll let everyone know what I find. -ST

#18403 12/09/02 11:51 PM
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Ed,

We use Frontpage here too.

samtrayman,

No doubt about it. A professional can do it better and faster. Just like anything else.

Bill


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#18404 12/10/02 02:41 AM
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Don't forget to ask about updates. What happens in 4 months when you want to add a page or change some stuff around, or even change your contact information? Do they provide support over the phone? How do they charge for changes? Hourly rates of $75-$100 are not uncommon.

#18405 12/10/02 04:07 AM
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that homestaed link looks pretty good to me [Linked Image] I may try that!


I did not get as think so badly as you shocked I did.
#18406 12/10/02 07:44 AM
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I had a website for my home remodeling busines. Didn't bring me any new work because the internet's filled with so much sutff it's hard for your customer to find you. Search Engine Optmization is the trick. You can learn to do it yourself but a professional firm will be better at it.

I got lots of email asking for advice on fixing stuff from Brazil, Germany, and Equador. Sometimes I'd get an email from some couple in Boston or Houston wanting a bid for a project.

But it did turn out to be a good sales tool.

One opf the things I asked for during a site visit was the customer's email address. I can tell which ISP's visit my site and often saw the customer's ISP within hours (often minutes) of my initial visit. (Web address was on business cards)

So I geared it toward this. Lots of pictures of past projects, lots of info about us, tried to answer all the questions I usually got asked by potential customers.

I know the site helped me make sales but did not bring in new work.

But like your work truck, a nice looking site says good things about you, a bad looking site makes you look unprofessional.

I'm lucky, my brother designes web sites and helped me out. $500 won't get you much of a site, nothing that is really made just for you, just some fill in the blank stuff.

I think a nice site would more likely cost $1000 or more. I know some of my Brother's more involved projects are over $6K.

#18407 12/10/02 10:32 AM
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my $.02:

I've done a fair amount of internal web pages in my jobs, for documentation and internal applications. I imagine that what I see when I look at most home-grown web pages must be like what an skilled electrician would see when they see what most homeowners end up with when they do their own electrical work. Red Flag.

I agree with samtrayman, that most DIY webpages look juvenile. The problem, IMHO, is that it takes a lot of time to learn DESIGN, and the tools make it easy to generate pages without regard to design.

There's another point of view that you might consider. I'm sure you're aware of your hourly rate. Take that and multiply by the 20-50 hours that you will spend 1)learning to build the pages, 2) learning design, 3) manipulating the photos, 4) creating/modifying/finding the graphical elements, and 5) working with the service provider to get everything installed correctly (just to name a few things). In that light, the ROI for a skilled electrician doing their own website is very low.

Now I'm not trying to get anyone's WIGGY in a BUZZ. I know that there are exceptions to everything. So if you know that your DIY website is top-notch, then I must not be talking to you.

A good, basic design reference is "The Non-Designer's Design Book" by Robin Williams (not that Robin Williams). About 15-20 USD, easy to read, and very helpful when it comes to designing web pages, business cards, and any other kind of promotional materials.

FWIW, I think $500 is a fair price for the level of work they demonstrate on their example. If it comes with search engine posting, all the better.

I can't say much for the business side of whether it's worth it, but I do use the net to research contractors, suppliers, etc. I would say that if you're going to do it, an easy to remember name is really important. If the URL is too long, nobody will type it in.

Peace,

Barry

#18408 12/10/02 12:46 PM
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Well, there has certainly been some avid interest in the post! I've done more research, and clearly, the common theme is that a solid (not just a DIY) website is a necessary part of maintaining business.

I've looked at the company with the promotion at http://www.limedot.com, and their references are strong, and I like their past work. So based on everything, I'm going to give it a go.

By the way, they offer "search engine optimization" like you mentioned, and some other stuff included in the price of the site, so I'm confident that this will be worth it. See you guys online sometime soon!

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