ECN Forum Forums Code Related Discussion NEC & other Code issues Tamper resistant: 406.11

Incidents also include children putting their fingers in the outlet. Only way that can happen is if the outlet is broken, or without a cover and the side wiring is exposed.
I just put the information out there and let the market decide if they want them.
The numbers also jump between 50 cents and two dollars an outlet depending on the source listed in the information from electrical safety institute.
Good products don't need a hard sell.

Gentlemen:
FWIW, in the weekend advertisements, one of the BIG box stores (Blue or Orange) had TP devices featured!! The pricing was not 'outrageous', but more than the .35 cent cheapo's. I'll look in the recycle pile for the ad tonite.

Home Depot only had them in Decora today They were new and not priced on the shelf.

OK, How many people out there have a surge suppressor plug strip? Now what happens to the TR receptacle? I am not against safety, I am just tired of manufactures shoving their products down our throats.

The obvious solution is TR surge supressors! Just wait, I'm sure they're coming.

Harold has a good point.

Not only is the TR idea completely irrelevant once a power strip is plugged in - ever pause to count how many you have in your home? - but some power strip designs do not lend themselves to easy modification.

Take this style, for example:



Naturally, this unique design came about as a way to address the many plug-in transformers we have.

This is what happens when we get into design work.

As pointed out in a recent column in "Electrical Contractor," the TR requirement applies to nearly every receptacle in a home - it looks like they may have overlooked the attic. Whether the receptacle is inaccessible (behind the dishwasher), well out of reach (garage door opener), or otherwise protected (outdoor with a bubble cover) does not matter.

Well, I can now say with confidence that it’s official… TR receptacles for residential installations…BLOW!

How can it be that when they designed TR receptacles, it seems that no one took into account the use of polarized two-prong cord caps?
So far, all three brands of TR receptacles that I have installed, Cooper, Leviton and P&S, have had a problem with allowing these polarized caps to be inserted. You have to wiggle the cord cap up and down while jiggling it side to side and pushing like you don’t care if you break it to get them to go in. I have actually cracked several thermoset wall plates from pushing so hard against the receptacles yoke. From now on, I will only use the unbreakable nylon plates with TR receptacles.
I really feel bad for the elderly, handicapped and even the ordinary individuals who I am forced to make use this trash.
This is even more ridiculous when considering that almost every table and floor lamp, as well as most portable counter top appliances use polarized two-prong caps.
I suppose we will be told that in the future, this situation will be addressed. Just like the cost of these receptacles is going to eventually drop to pre-TR prices. All I can say is that it seems that we have all been played, again.

I have a P&S right here on my desk and have played with a Leviton and have had no issues with the polarized plugs. I did find a fan made in China where the prongs were too thick to work with the TR receps, but would work with standard ones. I expect that the thickness of the prongs was outside the NEMA standard for plugs.

I am going to make a prediction that injuries will increase with the use of TR receptacles. The kids will just try harder and instead of just poking 1 wire they will have to get 2 at least. Just imagine the result of a kid with 2 metal object, 1 in each hand and they get them both in at the same moment. Current accross the chest. I for 1 am a kid that poked things into sockets. I became an electrician. I guess i enjoyed the experience. This rule change has been proposed for the Canadian Electrical code.

Yeah I poked a bobby pin into one when i was about 5 years old a spark, a crack , and black stuff on outlet