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Originally Posted by resqcapt19
If this is 120 volt circuit and you have 6 volts between the neutral and the ground, you have a circuit with excessive voltage drop. The voltage read between the neutral and the ground is nothing more than the voltage drop on the neutral between the main (or system) bonding jumper and the point of measurement. There will be additional voltage drop on the ungrounded conductor. It is very possible that the voltage drop on this circuit may exceed 10%. Note it also could be less if the excessive voltage drop on the neutral is caused by a poor connection and not just by the load.
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If he's dropping 6V on the neutral, he's also dropping 6V on the hot, which is a 10% voltage dip, and I'd think THAT would be causing the problems, and not 6V on the neutral.

My first reaction was inrush current on something else nearby, but 2000 times in 4 hours is a bit much for in-rush.

Lemme guess- circuit is overloaded just shy of tripping the breaker, and consists of 150' of #12?

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Which of the 4 circuts is the copier on? There are two variations of the 4 circut systems one is a 3+1 where only one circuit is on the second neutral and a 2+2 where two circuits are shared by the neutral in the later case this has led to problems when a regular sized neutral is used for the second feed.

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frown Trevman: I'm having to reach back into memory now, but to the best of my recollection the xfmr was in what looked like an OEM box, as if it were supplied as part of the copier. I thought at first it was a surge suppressor, but it didn't look quite right for that. It was completely enclosed, and resembled the xfmr's you see on PC printers, but it was, I believe, heavier. I wish I'd thought to pay more attention. The copier was an unfamiliar brand, and many people remarked on the unusual, even bizarre, logic programmed into things like paper size selection. It all struck me as not only foreign-made (what isn't these days), but hastily adapted for the USA. I wish I could be more helpful.

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6 volts does sound a rather excessive voltage drop on the neutral of a 120V circuit, certainly if it implies a 12V/10% drop overall.

I'd add my vote to the opinion that it's more likely the overall low voltage causing the problem than an actual 6V difference between neutral and ground.

Maybe that iso-xfmr will also need to boost the voltage a little?

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If he's dropping 6V on the neutral, he's also dropping 6V on the hot, which is a 10% voltage dip,

Only if the cause of the voltage drop is excessive current on the circuit. You can have a high voltage drop on the neutral without one on the hot in cases where there are poor connections on the neutral.
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