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Re: What Should A Commercial Electrician Know?
mahlere #161540 04/04/07 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by mahlere
It shouldn't take 4 hrs to wire 3 ballasts 8' off the ground.


Pick up three ballasts from shop drive to job 1 hour...
Park, load cart, ladder, and bicker with some security guard who is on a power trip and won't allow you in the building - 1 hour...
Break time.... grin
Repeat step two...
Do the actual work - while dodging irriate over-wieght women who think you are invading thier work place and need to manage you every move - and call a meeting to let you shut off the lights for 5 minitues on a bright sunny day next to a window - if for nothing else - COMPLETE BORDOM!
Lunch time....
Clean up and pack out...
4-5 hours.... If you clear access and other crap out of the way 15 - 20 minutes if you have the ballasts at the job and sparky at the door.

Mark Heller
"Well - I oughta....." -Jackie Gleason
Re: What Should A Commercial Electrician Know?
e57 #161547 04/04/07 07:37 AM
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Maintenance/repair is a 'tough' call; best on a T&M basis. We all have had 'no lights/no power' calls; some are flip the breaker, some are disasters

Experience.

John

John
Re: What Should A Commercial Electrician Know?
HotLine1 #161550 04/04/07 08:56 AM
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Good service electricians are hard to find. Its not enough that they have trouble shooting skill sets but they also have to have the right demeanor, and the right amount of drive.


101° Rx = + /_\
Re: What Should A Commercial Electrician Know?
e57 #161556 04/04/07 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by e57
Originally Posted by mahlere
It shouldn't take 4 hrs to wire 3 ballasts 8' off the ground.


Pick up three ballasts from shop drive to job 1 hour...
Park, load cart, ladder, and bicker with some security guard who is on a power trip and won't allow you in the building - 1 hour...
Break time.... grin
Repeat step two...
Do the actual work - while dodging irriate over-wieght women who think you are invading thier work place and need to manage you every move - and call a meeting to let you shut off the lights for 5 minitues on a bright sunny day next to a window - if for nothing else - COMPLETE BORDOM!
Lunch time....
Clean up and pack out...
4-5 hours.... If you clear access and other crap out of the way 15 - 20 minutes if you have the ballasts at the job and sparky at the door.


for the sake of argument (and the actual case cited) Strip Mall..exterior soffit...complete open access...exterior time clock...no access restrictions at all...ballasts and lamps on the truck...3 ballasts 3.5 hrs...

Last edited by mahlere; 04/04/07 10:04 AM.
Re: What Should A Commercial Electrician Know?
mahlere #161558 04/04/07 11:11 AM
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Mark, do you work for GSA? That was what they told the guy who wanted his computer room wired, except they had an extra hour or two a day for paperwork.

Greg Fretwell
Re: What Should A Commercial Electrician Know?
gfretwell #161590 04/04/07 07:55 PM
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GSA? No.... Medical and some office med/high rises - some are worse than banks and airports to get into. Even some of the resi I do, need signed authorization from unit owners and building management to just look at the job, and arrange elevator access/appointments +/or loading dock appointment. In a few buildings you need to be accompanied at all times.... RPITA!

Last edited by e57; 04/04/07 07:56 PM.
Mark Heller
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Re: What Should A Commercial Electrician Know?
ShockMe77 #161628 04/05/07 12:14 PM
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This to clear up any misunderstanding that my post on the previous page was not directed at ITO...sorry for any misunderstanding.
Re: What Should A Commercial Electrician Know?
Trumpy #161640 04/05/07 08:18 PM
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You rattled off the wire colors for various voltages, but never start working on anything till you have verified with your meters what the voltages are in reality. You do not know who worked on equipment before you and often times hack maintainence
men wire equipment to get it running. I have seen 12/3 nm power more than few compressors
Re: What Should A Commercial Electrician Know?
Trumpy #161846 04/08/07 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Trumpy
You guys don't get out enough.
PLC's are industry these days.
I hope you guys aren't looking to change jobs soon.
I wouldn't employ you. shocked

My apologies to anyone that read this, I am Damned sure that I did not write this, with the lack of an IP address search I can't prove it.
If I did write it I whole-heartedly apologise for writing such rubbish, although I would have been at work at the time.
Re: What Should A Commercial Electrician Know?
Trumpy #161858 04/08/07 12:57 PM
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Thanks for all the great replies!
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