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#16003 11/04/02 06:11 PM
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Is it typical to include these as an item in your bid?

#16004 11/04/02 07:31 PM
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Permitting fees always have to be a part of your total charges, the quesiton I guess is do you give it a line item. I don't usually give itemized bills, so I just add it in most of the time. But if you break down your items, then I would think a line item for permits would be fine.

#16005 11/04/02 08:28 PM
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Take it one step farther. How about lost time getting the permit? Do you add the time spent getting, filling out etc for the permits?

#16006 11/04/02 09:46 PM
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I charge for the permit fee. i do not charge for time spent filling out and filing permits.

#16007 11/04/02 09:56 PM
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If I get the permit during a t&m job the time is billed to the job. If I get it for a bid job I add an hours labor to the cost. My time is money!

#16008 11/04/02 11:08 PM
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T&M jobs, the "time" is billable as "service charges". The fee is billed at cost, with a copy of the documents attached to the invoice. Contract/Bid jobs, I add a guesstamate "time" amount, along with the fees, at cost.

Hey Harold, you know how long it takes to get a permit here, don't you!!!!

John


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#16009 11/05/02 12:52 AM
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I always include permit costs and the time to get them. They are part of the job.
Some of the cities are a lot more costly than others.
Permits, taxes and other costs should be included in your bid or shown as a line item in T&M billing. You have to pay them for you to do the job you contracted for, so you should be paid for your time and costs.

BTW
How many of you have to charge sales tax?
Recently (1 OCT ) nebraska raised it sales tax rate and now wants certan contractors to charge sales tax on materials AND Labor.


ed
#16010 11/05/02 07:10 AM
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sales tax?, i think it's done @ my 1/4ly's..

#16011 11/05/02 07:15 AM
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No sales tax on services here in Massachusetts. If the dems get the governors office today we go back to "Taxachusetts".

#16012 11/05/02 11:17 AM
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6% Sales tax on materials and non-capital-improvement labor.

I don't charge for anything except actual on-site working labor. Everthing else is overhead. If I did, I'd price myself right out of the biz!

Had over $1000 worth of "non-productive labor" on the "big job" which is the main reason why my "partnership" with Joe is now a "pseudo-partnership".

I can't afford to pay someone $30 an hour an 20% MU on materials to stand there and argue with me!


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