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#158312 04/17/06 04:05 PM
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From reading forums and Chat participations i have learned that there are unscrupulous companies that are taking advantage of flat rate i have heard stories of over charging, up selling things not in the best interest of the customer just to fleece the pockets of some contractors. I think California has even Charged some with trade practice issues. These are the guys that are giving up front pricing a bad name.

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#158313 04/17/06 04:15 PM
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Likewise, contractors giving T&M a bad name charge for materials not installed, hours not worked, or those "milking" a job.

Dave

#158314 04/17/06 04:26 PM
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Speaking of which,
NJ law (white book 13:31-3.7) prohibits "unconscionable pricing".
What is unconsciable is debatable, but they have guidelines.

I would wonder if some of the prices I've heard around town (if true) would be considered unconscionable.

And with that, I'm done.

Good night Mrs. Calabash, wherever you are.

#158315 04/17/06 04:26 PM
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"don't equate your costs/overhead/etc with those of a service contractor. They are different."
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This is the topic, that is of intrest, so can we try to stay in this area.

Thank you,

Les

#158316 04/19/06 06:35 AM
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This is why EC's can't get it together. One bad apple can spoil the bunch. Shameful as far as I am concerned.

#158317 04/19/06 06:39 AM
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Lear,

it is a shame. look at the plumbers in your area. Most of them talk. Most are friendly competitor. Most have an hourly rate that puts us to shame. And most live better lives than electricians.

but, they stick together. Not in an attempt to screw the customer, but in an attempt to better themselves.

#158318 04/19/06 10:15 AM
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The views and opinions that are expressed on this board, should stay on this board. The idea of posting on various boards, with the intent of slamming someones ideas or opinions to justify an opinion of your own, is outright childish (for lack of a better PG rated word). Grow up......

Dnk,

Isn't this exactly what you did? Took the ideas and opinions of contractors on these other forums, went to a do it yourself site and slammed them because you don't agree with them.

#158319 04/19/06 05:08 PM
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A-Line, you can not argue with opinions. If you notice, when dnk gets called out, he typically resorts to a martyr position and tends to subtly blame everyone with backhanded comments. it's happened time and time again.

#158320 04/19/06 06:38 PM
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Why doesn't someone take the high road and just let it go.

#158321 04/19/06 07:00 PM
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redsy, in all honesty, i want us all to take the high road. go on a consumer site and blight an entire segment of our industry, then attempt to play the victim.

sorry, i don't buy it and you shouldn't be selling it.

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