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GTE, That is true. Before July NY was actually on the '93 NEC (but who knew?) There are some things I am trying to figure out regarding that, because there are also requirements in the Building Code and Residential Code that differ from the '99 NEC. The Residential code seems to say that wiring methods etc. in the NEC are also permitted. So we can use either one? Here's the rules in the NY Residential Code regarding Arc Fault requirements ...... did you get that? there is a Title: SECTION E3802:
GROUND-FAULT AND ARC-FAULT CIRCUIT-INTERRUPTER PROTECTIONbut then nothing about Arc-Fault at all. That seems to mean that they are not required by NY Codes, but are permitted if you want to put them in. Bill [This message has been edited by Bill Addiss (edited 04-25-2003).]
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Bill,
The NEC and the Building Code.
The Building Code adapts the NEC essentially by reference. The BC only spells out a few specific things, by comparison to the NEC.
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Al, I understand that what is contained in the building code is by no means complete as far as Electrical requirements go. What I mean is if the two (BC and NEC) differ somehow it sounds like you could follow either one. ... compliance with said methods of electrical construction of said Minnesota Building Code shall also constitute compliance with this section Bill [This message has been edited by Bill Addiss (edited 04-26-2003).]
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txsparky: Sec. 6-48.1. National electrical code adopted. The 1999 Edition of the National Electrical Code, Standard of the National Board of Fire Underwriters, as recommended by the National Fire Protection Association, being ANSI/NFPA 70-1999, and the amendments thereto, are hereby adopted as the minimum standard for the installation of all electrical wiring, devices and equipment in the city, except as otherwise specifically provided in this chapter, and the same is hereby made a part of this chapter as fully and to the same extent as if copied herein in full, a copy of which shall be on file with the city secretary. In event of any conflict between the provisions of this chapter and said National Electrical Code, the provisions of this chapter shall govern. This is a little different than Al's code reference in that if differences (conflicts) exist between the Building Code and the NEC the Building Code must be followed. Thanks, from these examples it seems that there is no "standard" way that the NEC gets adopted by areas. Interesting .. Bill [This message has been edited by Bill Addiss (edited 04-26-2003).]
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Hey Bill, Ain't been around a whole lot for the last 3 weeks, just too much going on to play with the computer.
In VA, the "Board of Housing and Community development" under Va state statute adopts the Uniform State Building Code (USBC). The USBC states that the electrical requirements come from NFPA 70, and goes on to list other documents that apply elsewhere, many from the NFPA. Currently the 1996 NEC applies, we will adopt the 99 code probably on Sept. 1, without the AFCI requirements.
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George, What do you mean about "playing" with the Computer? So there are no Electrical requirements in the Building Code at all? If there are some and they differ from the NEC which one rules? Nice to hear from you! Bill
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Bill Go to the link for the Nebraska state electrical board in the western states. You will find the state electrical act and the boards rules and admendments. In Nebraske the NEC is adopted into state law. Building codes are adopted by the cities.
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Bill, Remember 2 weeks ago I took a new job, been a tad busy with that, and the time I took off between the Pentagon and the county seemed to be filled with 2 funerals and doctors visits so "noodling the net" seemed to take a BIG backseat. Until the new VA USBC is in effect, we never amended the NEC, BTW housing under the current statutes is controlled by the '93 CABO code, so residential is still under the 93. We always have a brou-ha-ha over amending the NEC, but this time there were several amendments, I'll try to send along a link soon. Link to Va BOCA http://www.vbcoa.org [This message has been edited by George Corron (edited 04-26-2003).]
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Bill: Over here, on NJ we have the NJ Uniform Construction Code (5:23 et al) as the "building code", and it incorporates the NEC (1999 at present) as the "electrical code. There are some amendments, mainly the AFCI issues. There are others, I would have to bring the book in and type a while. (I'm a two finger poker)
The UCC incorporates various national codes, and is a "legal" document, and as such is written partially in legaleese.
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John,
It looks like you guys have a new Building and Residential Code over in NJ now. Any major changes as far as Electrical requirements?
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