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#150701 09/02/05 06:11 AM
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Dave,
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We had an electrical contractor (David Emmerling, with Wigdahl Electrical Company of Elk Grove Village, IL) and Deputy Chief Wayne Luecht of a FD south of us get burned (3rd degree - 93%) when a fault two miles away decided to use the panel room housing 480v gear in a shopping center as a "point of release".
And some GC's wonder why we are so "finicky".

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Don,
Could you explain to me what is wrong with Electricians using Cover-up Gear?.
I'm an Electrician and I use it most days that I work.
The problem is that the OSHA rules prohibit most types of live work. When the rules permit live work, then yes electricans must use PPE suitable for that hazard. Other than troubleshooting, there is no live work that would be permitted by OSHA in a dwelling unit.
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#150703 09/15/05 07:48 AM
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Don,
I agree mate.
There is no need for it.

#150704 09/15/05 08:30 AM
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Does this mean that Home Inspectors who remove covers from cabinets to inspect the panelboard should disconnect the main?

I am sure that they don't, and have been keeping my fingers crossed hoping that no one gets hurt. I recommend that they use the basic PPE and that's about all that can be done.

Some of the SOP that home inspectors operate under may not call this to their attention.

I see questions every day from some who are asking questions about situations such as what's this, and why, and how do I?

Here's one example:
http://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/viewtopic.php?t=15442

I honestly believe that if these types of questions have to be asked, that they are not "Qualified Persons" as defined per the NEC. Just my opinion.


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#150705 09/15/05 08:45 AM
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A self employed person is not subject to OSHA requirements. Many HIs are in fact self employed.

That is not to say they should not be using caution.

HI companies have more than the owner out doing inspections are definitely violating OSHA regs when they open panel covers along with 95% of the electricians in the county.


Bob Badger
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