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#149382 10/18/03 07:45 AM
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Is my way of thinking all back to front?

not at all Trumpy, methinks wall mounts are something of a concession also....

speaking for the rural contingent, if a FF is lucky here, s/he will attend the Fire Academy

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#149383 10/18/03 08:40 AM
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sparky,
I couldn't help but notice the sections E and G of the training schedule (Motors and Xformers).
How would these be extinguished in the US?. [Linked Image]

#149384 10/18/03 07:23 PM
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probably de energizing it. and hit it with a class C Trumpy

#149385 10/20/03 02:14 AM
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Yes, sparky,
We seem to use more CO2 extinguishers over here than anything else, (as far as Class C fires go).
Faster knockdown of the flames and better cooling of the ignition source.
Also CO2, does not have the corrosive effect of Dry Powder on Electrical equipment.
Tell me guy's, is CAF(Compressed Air/Foam) used, at your Brigade/Department?, if so, what is it mainly used for, as in what type of fires?. [Linked Image]

#149386 10/20/03 06:19 AM
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the better departments have this big pigstabber (for lack of proper terminology) that injects foam into a car engine fire, quite impressive really....

some foam structures,i'm not sure of the timing as this technology was not available to us when i was in... i guess it makes the h2o go further, which is the whole rural ball game anyhow

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Trumpy,
Thanks for the response.

I am speaking from Canada, and I haven't heard of mandatory installs here.
In other coutries, are there rules or approvals for residential CO detectors yet?

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On another note:

I heard about a push a while ago by FF to pressure tobacco companies to remove potassium nitrate, sulphur, and other 'gun powder' from cigs to lower the risk of fire.

Ever heard of it, or anything new?

#149389 10/24/03 10:13 PM
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Sparky,
That pigstabber, sounds like a really great piece of equipment, wierd name though, it almost takes me back to my days as a Slaughter-man.
But, I think I know what you are talking about in your last comment, we call it "Water-Wetting" Compound, we have these cartridges that fit into the 3rd stage of the pump, during rural and herbage fires.
Just helps the water stick to trees and other such things better.
But, we had a disgruntled Probationer FF at the Brigade a few years back, who was dismissed, before they threw him out of the station(Firehouse), he managed to fill the Washing Machine up with this stuff, we never realised until we washed the overalls the next time, it took 3 weeks to dry the load of washing, in rather hot weather too!
IMO, you haven't lived until you have fought a decent Herbage fire and survived!. [Linked Image]

#149390 10/24/03 10:35 PM
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Pinemarten,
To be quite honest mate, I've never actually heard of CO detectors being installed in a Residential situation, but it's a good idea.
If someone could make a Universal detector, that encompasses CO, Gas and other such things and make it to be mounted at skirting level, in a form where it won't be damaged by furniture, that would be great.
I've installed CO detectors in Industrial places, where this could be a Safety Hazard, but they are real hard to calibrate properly, not the sort of job for your average domestic Sparky!. [Linked Image]
On the subject of the FF and the Tobacco thing, I do know that cigarettes contain things that shouldn't be in them.
But, I really don't see how a cigarette can spontaneously combust, without an external source of heat.
Are we in the age of the self-lighting cigarette?. [Linked Image]

#149391 10/25/03 12:13 AM
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CO detectors in Canada have become popular since deaths related to natural gas furnaces here. Something about corrosion causing the exhaust gases to leak into the circulating air. Inspections aren't mandatory yet.

On the cigarette thing. It is believed that many fires would not happen when cigarettes are dropped by careless/tired/sleeping smokers.
Without the accelerants added to help them burn, they would just go out.

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