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Trumpy,
maybe someone would like to learn cpr online?

go here

Sparky,
IMHO, I think that learning CPR over the Net, sets up somewhat of a dangerous precident.
No disrepect, but, there is no real substitute for blowing into a plastic mannekin as a simple training method.
Believe me, in all the times that I have performed CPR on the Fireground or at Car Accidents, it is nothing like the training they give you in the First Aid courses.
The situation that they give you there, is that the person is lying down in an area that allows un-obstructed movement.
I have resusitated(sometimes successfully)people that are trapped in motor vehicles, before the Ambulance has arrived.
I just wish that a lot more people(citizens) would learn CPR, it's not hard to learn and look how many lives it would save!!.

True Trumpy,
perhaps i should simply say, visit the site to see how easy CPR really is, the ABC mechanics etc.... (but yes, hard to do sometimes)

conversely, the AHA here has reformatted the new circ to a video driven deal, less instructor babble these days is the jist i guess...

also there is the increasing availability of de-fibs, much per legislation, going on here.

btw~
i appluade any FF who learns, God knows we've rolled up on enough codes here with the cop or FF pointing to someone unresponsive.
i've offered training for free now for years, i just can't convince those stubborn nozzelheads here , there should, IMHO, be a law for all ERE's


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Sparky,
I personally agree with what you are saying.
But, as an Emergency Worker, I am required to continue CPR and the ABC system, until such time as a Doctor(Medical Practicioner)is there to pronounce the victim as deceased.
I do not like, also the idea of de-frib units being used willy-nilly, there was talk over here of having them installed in supermarkets, as this is where a lot of our MCI's happen.
It's a stupid idea, kids will play with them

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Trumpy,
it's not that the FF's do not wish to perform cpr here, they just don't wish to learn in the first place, heck i've coded thier own and they're still not moved to learn.

it is a point of frustration that i am merely venting here, please don't take it as a slam against yourself or FF's in general, it's a rural problem here.

the public?, well what can we say.... once i rolled up to a code (reported as such) to find an old lady tending to her tray of freshly baked muffins claiming 'he's in there' , resulting in the old man coded in front of the TV in the next room.

Maybe i'm a weak man, but i wanted to tell her to dial 911 and then physically close off her trachea until someone rolled up.

the holy water? the defib? yes they are issues that you and i probably should not bore this BB with.

Go here, if your not there already

Here the former will probably never be granted field ems, the latter will be poppin' outta everywhere like airbags in late model cars

btw~ MCI's in the market? news to me....

Steve(tired of wearin' that black thing across the badge cause someone else ain't got the time)aka sparky



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