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Paul,
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Somebody has to ask: WHY?
I must say I'm with you on that comment. [Linked Image]
I'm just glad it's not my job to install this equipment.
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What's your guy gonna do for his fridge/s?

On the surface of things, I don't really think that the home-owner has put a lot of thought into what effect this is going to have on his house.
When I was having a "walk-through" look at the place yesterday, I can see this job turning into a real can of worms.
There's all sorts of gear that's going to have to be segregated from any Contactor system:
  • The house is fed with 3 phase 230V.
  • The house has Under-floor heating all through it.
  • The guy has 2 fridges and 2 Deep Freezers.
  • There is a 9kW Air Conditioning Unit that has a mains-operated timer controlling it and the timer isn't on the switchboard.
  • The guy want's his alarm clocks to stay on too!. [Linked Image]
  • The security lighting is on a seperate timer and that isn't on the board either.
  • My colleague tells me that there is a security camera system that is fed from a plug circuit, that is required to be isolated at night, but the home-owner wants the cameras on 24/7.

Adding to all this, the house is what you would call a country house, in the true sense of the word, the switch-board looks so old, I reckon Captain Cook installed it and there is very little room left on it.
I told my mate to run as fast as he could!. [Linked Image]

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This does sound as though he really hasn't thought it through properly. If lots of devices have to stay powered, then what's the point of wanting a main remote isolator?

If he's concerned about not leaving certain appliances on overnight, how about an X-10 type control system with all devices set to a common code?


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I told my mate to run as fast as he could!.

Wise move.

There cometh a point where you have to say...ummm....no [Linked Image]


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Sorry I couldn't get any pics while I was there, my camera was flat and also I had a rather busy schedule that day.
But the switch-board was a real shocker, it was full of old MEM Switch-fuse units and the like, none of your DIN Rail mounting gear here.
The whole panel measured (roughly) 1600 wide x 800 high, it was HUGE! and it was packed with meters and fuses
I went and dropped the fuses before we opened the panel up and it was full of old TRS wire and heaps of TRS-TPS junctions behind the panel.
We closed it again quickly!.
I re-inserted the fuses and told my mate what I thought and left.
I had a cold shiver run down my back after that one!. [Linked Image]

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Sounds like complete rewire time to me!

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Just a lil' update on this one.
The job never went ahead, after my mate and I were talking on the 'phone, the cost seemed to get higher and higher!.
We added all of the essentials up and a few "other things" thrown in, the guy didn't like the cost of it all.
Anyhow, I hate to see a bad job get worse and considering that I had little input into this job, you guys can't prove a thing!!. [Linked Image] [Linked Image]
Thanks a heap for your advice though guys, it means a lot!. [Linked Image]

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