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#138322 09/04/03 08:02 PM
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Lyle, I was talking about the former use of the rod only, but thanks for the formula. At 30mA for the RCD you could have a rod with 1,666 ohms impedance! Pretty safe system.

Paul, perhaps the belief that a rod to earth brings everything to the same potential is based on the fact that this is true as long as no current is flowing. Nasty old current!

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#138323 09/05/03 12:50 PM
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Nasty old current!

Yes, current is really nasty: It's current that heats up the wires and cause fires. It's current that kills when it flows through your body. It's current that causes electromagnetic fields. Electricity would have been so much simpler without it! [Linked Image]

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#138324 09/08/03 10:24 AM
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LOL! [Linked Image]

So it works just fine until it's switched on! [Linked Image]

Re the 50V limit, this is another case where changes to the rules over the years have not necessarily tightened the requirements as one might expect.

Allow me to quote from the 1966 IEE Regulations (14th Edition):
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D.24 A current-operated earth-leakage circuit-breaker shall be used only where the product of its operating current in amperes and the earth-loop impedance in ohms does not exceed 40. Where such a circuit-breaker is used, the consumer's earthing terminal shall be connected to a suitable earth electrode.

The trip currents have become much lower, however:
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NOTE:- It is desirable in general that the operating current of a current-operated earth-leakage circuit-breaker should not exceed 2% of the normal rated current of the circuit. Operating currents less than 500mA are not normally necessary unless the value of earth-loop impedance is such that a lower oeprating current is essential for compliance with rule D.24.

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And since those long superceded regs were published there has been a lot of international research on the effects of electric current on the human body, not to mention the technical advances in RCD design.

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