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#129159 - 08/31/04 12:14 AM
Phasor Resolution?.
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Hi Scott and the regulars here. I have a question that I hope that you guys can help me answer. I have done these sorts of calcs a million times before, but owing to lack of practice in the last few years, I've forgotten how on earth they're done. OK, here we go: A given 3 phase Star-connected installation, has the following Phase currents: - R Phase= 30A
- Y Phase= 25A
- B Phase= 40A
Having this information, how then is the current likely to be carried by the Neutral calculated?. Thanks in advance, Mike Trump. 
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#129160 - 08/31/04 01:08 PM
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Mike, just before my head exploded, I got 13.2 amperes, but I cheated and used Gerald Newton's www.electrician.com/electa1/electa4htm.htm (This assumes ONLY ø-n loads and an even 120° ‘spread.’)
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#129161 - 08/31/04 05:55 PM
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Oops, Sorry Bjarney, I'd forgotten that you guys call Phasors, Vectors!. 
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#129162 - 09/01/04 11:38 AM
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Take the square root of the quantity R^2 + Y^2 + B^2 minus the quantity R(Y) + R(B) + B(Y). R^2 = R squared (900 + 625 + 1600) - (750 + 1200 + 1000) 3125 - 2950 175 Square rood of 175 = 13.2288
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#129163 - 09/01/04 09:38 PM
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Phasors or Vectors... no problem. Isn't phasor a more accurate term in AC calculations?
Question for Trumpy... what is a tensor?
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#129164 - 09/02/04 12:15 AM
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Wow, question already answered by the time I got the notification!  One question: Do the loads need to be pure Resistance L-N, or will Reactive L-N loads result in the balanced harmony also? Not trying to start any trouble, just want to be sure. Scott35
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#129165 - 09/05/04 08:03 AM
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Tensors are used in some engineering calculations. I think the relationship between scalars, vectors and tensors is something like: Scalar: x This box weighs x ounces. ------ Vector: x, y I want this box x feet from that wall, y feet above the floor. ------ Tensor: a b c d I want to know how much stress ( tension-tensor, get it?) the hole for the box places on the wall. I don't remember how to calculate this, just that tensors were useful ----------- Here is a proper description of tensors: http://www.physlink.com/Education/AskExperts/ae168.cfm You can even apply tensors to Ohms law: http://www.tf.uni-kiel.de/matwis/amat/semi_en/kap_2/basics/b2_1_3.html
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#129166 - 09/05/04 12:35 PM
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Thank you, C-H. ‘A tensor may be defined at a …collection of isolated points of space (or space-time), or it may be defined over a continuum of points.’Now, maybe that’s sort of like explaining n th-dimensional systems. The simplest shadow of a 2-dimensional plane is a 1-dimensional line. The simplest shadow of a 3-dimension cube is a 2-dimension plane. [The simplest shadow of a 1-dimension line is a “zero-dimension” point.] Outside of the human realm, the simplest shadow of a 4-dimensional “object” is a 3-dimensional form called a tesseract—which we view in 3 dimesions to be (roughly) a set of nested cubes. We cannot perceive a 4-dimension object—only its 3-dimension shadow. Will someday be useful for polychoroniodic tetrasesquiphase zeptojoule power analysis..} http://pw1.netcom.com/~hjsmith/WireFrame4/tesseract.html (drag cusrsor through image) http://mathworld.wolfram.com ..search for ‘Magic Tesseract’ (drag cursor through java image) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract Rest in peace, Doctor Sagan... [This message has been edited by Bjarney (edited 09-05-2004).]
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#129168 - 09/06/04 11:27 AM
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"A vector quantity is a quantity which is fully described by both magnitude and direction. On the other hand, a scalar quantity is a quantity which is fully described by its magnitude." From the physics classroom [This message has been edited by resqcapt19 (edited 09-06-2004).]
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