Virgil,
sounds like we've worked for the same sorts!
i was apprenticed to the old 'backhand' school of testing.
[ back of hand so muscular contraction recoils arm forward]
one can't sell themselves as a licensed trade needed for safe installations while practicing obvious acts of electrical disrespect.
most of my customers would rather the 'frog' did not visit
so anyway.....
Steve,
all frogs, ells,and defib's aside,[ that was fun though!]
did the posts provide enough info?
what would your assessment of your original Q be?