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He was clearly planning on trying to save the owner some cash, so just put a keyless and a 60 watt a-19. [Linked Image] Actually, I think I would cut the tile and put in a can. What a D.A.

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Hotline1,

Thanks for the heads-up on the Ruud lighting.

I had read 410.4(D), and I sort of gathered that surface-mount was OK if I found one listed for it, but the only thing I knew of was a recessed can with a 40W A-19 and shower trim on GFCI protection.


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I thought GFCI protection was only required if a fan/light was used.
I'm not suggesting a cheap shortcut, only verifying code.

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Well, it says in the trim instuctions that it is only listed for wet or damp locations if under GFCI protection, so I guess it follows under the listing and labelling thing.

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What is the make and model of the can and trim you say is labeled requiring GFI protection?

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Progress #PROP8025-60 Shower Trim used with PROP87-AT IC/Non-IC Airtite Canister.

I remember it quite vividly. It cost me an extra $40 or so for the breaker to be compliant on a bid I was already losing money on... Needless to say, I made sure.

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I do remember seeing a surface mount light listed for a shower in the Progress catalogue too. I also got a Halo catalogue, but the only shower trims are over 5" and would require lots of tile cutting. The ceilings are high (9'), so the surface-mounts will be fine.

Live and learn...


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I've searched the code book and can't find any codes requiring GFCI protection for shower lights. I only put the shower light on a GFCI if the shower is a full steam shower. Can anyone site a code otherwise? I want to make sure we do it right to avoid red tags and/or lawsuits.

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As far as I'm aware, there is no requirement in the NEC, but the instructions and labelling on the shower trims I use say that it's acceptable for wet or damp locations when GFCI protected, so it would follow under 110.3(B).

That make sense?

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I've found the Progress Lights that are surface mount and listed for use in a shower, no mention of GFCI protection needed.

Progress P5702-30 looks half-way decent, but the ones in Ruud look a lot better.

Guess the ex-EC may have had a plan after all?


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