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#112166 - 05/12/01 07:54 AM Re: Threadbare SE Cable - What are the Dangers?
sparky Offline
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Registered: 10/18/00
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Frank's right, the real hazard is the SE allowing water to flow into and corrode the terminations.
I did see one of these flow water into a Main breaker and start a fire in the panel..


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#112167 - 05/12/01 08:32 AM Re: Threadbare SE Cable - What are the Dangers?
Bill Addiss Offline
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Frank,

Sorry if this is a bit misleading. I think we're pretty much all in agreement here (also at MHE) that the main danger here is related to the entrance of water. I was trying to make a case for it being a shock hazard also under certain circumstances. This argument is undeniably very thin and would require extenuating circumstances. I was just fishing for scenarios where it might present a shock hazard to a Homeowner because that seems to be how they always perceive it. Every time I've mentioned that water could get in I hear "Can't We just tape it up?" Without the possibility of shoch hazard it may never get fixed. It would just start collecting layers of Duct Tape!


Bill

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#112168 - 05/12/01 02:23 PM Re: Threadbare SE Cable - What are the Dangers?
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Bill,

I've seen the duct tape routine. I can understand your point.

Frank (cinkerf)

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#112169 - 05/12/01 02:46 PM Re: Threadbare SE Cable - What are the Dangers?
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I've seen where the "noodles" were eaten almost all the way through, the surface area exposed helps speed up the corrosion.

In a 240V series circuit, the current wants to be the same throughout the circuit and therefore when Harry Homeowner panics and unplugs the sparking, smoking appliance from the wall by the #16 AWG cord with melting insulation, with reference to the neutral and ground lost, I see burn and/or electrocution to be very likely. I do understand that it takes just the right circumstances to achieve such a scenario.


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#112170 - 05/12/01 06:01 PM Re: Threadbare SE Cable - What are the Dangers?
sparky Offline
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and then proceeds to fix the appliances with duct tape.....

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