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This from Theelectirikid In my grandparent's house, in the basement, the previous owner installed a bathroom on one side. They put up two walls, one separating it from the laundry room, the other from the "main" area. My great uncle "installed" a light for my grandfather. Here's how he wired it. Pic 1, a picture of the light. Yes that's a grounded outlet on the side. Pic 2, a piece of two-wire (non-grounded) SO Cord run through the newer wall, up and parallel to the joists. The cable is not "secured" at all in the run. Pic 3, the other end. It's plugged into a socket-to-receptacle adapter. My finger's there to block the light glare. Ian
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That's the way rednecks do it.
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Oh, in that case, it's just a corded appliance, not an electrical installation. What's the problem??
Besides, not grounding the metal case eliminates the risk of a ground fault. And that receptacle is an inaccessible basement receptacle, so why would anyone even consider adding GFCI protection or a ground?
(Edit: for the vocational students, this is known as sarcasm!)
[This message has been edited by SteveFehr (edited 10-29-2006).]
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Thanks Scott for posting them. I'm taking some pictures around this singlewide as I type!
Steve: I was following you. Until I saw the disclaimer, that is.
Ian (Edited cause I kant spell me name!) A.
[This message has been edited by Theelectrikid (edited 10-30-2006).]
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There was a time when the only receptacle found in the bath was in the base of the light. Most of these were of the two-prong variety.
Three prong receptacles, like the one pictured, had but a brief period of use, before the GFCI was invented.
many places date from this time, and still have this arrangement. I believe replacement fixtures are available. Remember that word : REPLACEMENT. new installations still need GFI protection.
Of course, not grounding the receptacle shown, and powering in the manner shown, was as wrong then as it is now.
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Growing up the house I lived in had two single lamps on both sides of the mirror with a single grounded outlet in each one.
Next to the sink was a NEMA 2-15 t-slot duplex that didn't work anymore.
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you people with your bathroom outlets are really lucky. My aunt's old house had one (1) ceiling light fixture in a bathroom with a 9' ceiling. Every morning, she would run her hair dryer and curling iron on an old orange extension cord. Eventually, they moved into a new house, and to the best of my knowlege the house has not been rewired yet. They moved out 6 years ago, and the house has had several owners sence then. It was a 100a. 2w. service for a 4200sq. foot house. No air conditioner, though.
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I don't know if it matters to you guys, but I just learned my Great-uncle was, and still is, a plumber.
Ian A.
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many places date from this time, and still have this arrangement. I believe replacement fixtures are available. Remember that word : REPLACEMENT. new installations still need GFI protection. Q: Would you be allowed to use one of these if say it was in the upstairs bath, fed from the GFCI in the lower-floor bathroom? Ian A.
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Yes, you would. I'm not sure it would meet the receptacle requirement, but would be allowed in addition to the required receptacle.
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