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#111010 08/22/06 10:17 AM
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These are old pictures.
I had to go back and check why it was a violation at the time.
Section 230.43 before 1990 did not allow LTFC as a service raceway material. It was changed first to allow flex metal and then the next cycle they included LT.
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#111011 08/22/06 11:15 AM
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" Actually there is one thing keeping it from being water tight. Any guesses?"

The locknut against the female adapter?


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#111012 08/25/06 10:26 AM
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Yes, and I believe you could fail this for that. Also it looks as though the strap at the top of the riser is broken or not attached. As ugly as it is, I don't see any other reason to fail.

Allen

#111013 09/19/06 10:05 PM
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Just breezing through the pictures and thought I would ask; Can handyman do this type of work without a license where this picture was taken? Just curious. Steve

#111014 09/21/06 09:39 PM
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Not in California. Services cannot be touched by anyone other than a C-10 holder
This is scary it looks like this guy used whatever was laying around his storage to hang this service including square head lags.

#111015 09/26/06 08:39 PM
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SparkyNC:
In New Jersey, single family resi, homeowner can do service or anything else electrically, as long as he/she owns & lives in it (with permit)
Other than that, multi family (>2), comm, etc has to be Lic. EC for service & everything else.

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#111016 09/26/06 09:16 PM
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Not in California. Services cannot be touched by anyone other than a C-10 holder

Homeowners can pull their own permits and do their own work here in the Golden State as well... Panels and all.

#111017 10/12/06 09:41 PM
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You could argue the violations all you want, and it may even pass inspection the way it is, but I can tell you right now that neither Southern California Electric or San Diego Gas and Electric PoCos that I work with here in OC California would ever let that fly. They would flat out refuse to hook it up. They are extreemly picky (and for good reason) on every bit of the run all the way up to their meter. I can see unacceptable radius on the 90s, not to mention the radius on the LT connector, and the LB would be questioned as well. Even if they don't have to pull the wire, they have the last word.

I seriously doubt they would even hook this up as a temp service for a work site meter.

#111018 10/15/06 01:50 PM
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Homeowners can pull their own permits and do their own work here in the Golden State as well...

Randy, I have seen a few get denied at the permit counter here. And it is kinda funny and very serious few moments for me pulling my own permit, and having some HO at the next spot at the counter. I show all my paperwork, and I'm on my way.... The Electrical Inspection Dept here will send down the on-duty Inspector to quiz them about the whole job before or if they give them one. It's fun to watch, so I usually stick around..... (They do this for GC's too pulling a Permit for a service) If they dont answer the questions in satisfactory method, they wont give them a permit. And I have seen a few good blow-ups there at the counter because of it. I quietly applaud the Inspectors for it...

Anyway, back to the violation here: (This portion of the code has been deleted locally here)

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230.43~(15) Flexible metal conduit not over 1.8 m (6 ft) long or liquidtight flexible metal conduit not over 1.8 m (6 ft) long between raceways, or between raceway and service equipment, with equipment bonding jumper routed with the flexible metal conduit or the liquidtight flexible metal conduit according to the provisions of 250.102(A), (B), (C), and (E)
(16) Liquidtight flexible nonmetallic conduit
Where flexible metal conduit or liquidtight flexible metal conduit is installed for services, a bonding jumper must be installed between both ends within the raceway. The bonding jumper is allowed to be installed outside the raceway, but it must follow the path of the raceway and cannot exceed 6 ft in length. The bonding jumper must not be wrapped or spiraled around the flexible conduit.

I dont see where that Flex is bonded on both ends....

[This message has been edited by e57 (edited 10-15-2006).]


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