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Bob:

Although allowed to be used for a fixture whip up to 4 feet, the code says the:

"Romex cable shall closely follow the surface of the building finish or of running boards.", so it is not really allowed without this support.

The NEC is used Nationwide, not just in the States you mention, and have amendments to the NEC as well!

[This message has been edited by Joe Tedesco (edited 09-06-2004).]

If this is a new installation, wouldn't the romex be Orange ?
Personally,I wouldn't install this without a Disconnect. They are cheap,& make a nice transition to a short piece of flex for the Heater.
That last 3-4 ft of NM just doesn't look neat, & secure when it goes straight to the water heater.

I understand that Joe and if you staple the NM down the angled beam of the ceiling then to the 2 x 4 to the closet point of the water heater you could meet that requirement you could also run a clip into the water heater with a tek screw close to the connector in order to have support within 12"

When was the last time you actually inspected a job as the AHJ?

Bob:

I am an Active Member of the IAEI and not currently working an an AHJ. I offer, and also make on-site inspections during many of my on-site seminars Nationwide, and sometimes they involve new construction or old work.

Are you asking about the last time I made and inspection because I sound too picky!

Megawatt

I hear you and that is a nice job.

What I am talking about is what the NEC actually requires and what NEC sections apply to the job in the picture.

We could run PVC coated rigid metal conduit all the back to the panel and use a NEMA 4X disconnect switch. Overdoing it is allowed and easy. What is hard is knowing what is actually required.

Most of the jobs I work would specify a disconnect at the unit with 3/4" flex to the unit.

Bob

LOL

Very perceptive.

I think you would find yourself challenged by electricians like myself or electricmanscott with some of your hardline positions.

It would be interesting to say the least.

Bob:

Just remember, the "bottom line" is always drawn by the AHJ.

Why is so hard for you too agree with the rules of the code?

You like to do it your way, and I do it my way, so what's the problem?

Why don't you invite me to make a "friendly" inspection someday, and don't worry about the envelope, I will do it for free!

PS: I will put out a call to the Wiring Inspectors in the area, and see if they would allow me to tag along, or maybe you have a very special job that you are proud of that you can pick out for us to look at!

Can't beat that, or can we pick an address from a hat?

Joe,
Not true. It is drawn by the courts after the EC sues the AHJ. There are a number of case where the AHJ had to pay for the excess costs he or she caused due to "aggressive" code enforcement.
Don

Don:

I agree, that is true in many areas!

Please explain "aggressive" code enforcement?

Just because I do not agree with your idea of what the code is, or should be, has nothing to do with me agreeing with the NEC.

I respect the NEC and the people that make it.

Certainly there are code sections that I do not understand the reasoning behind but I will follow them.

I have misinterpreted the NEC in the past and I am sure it will happen again.

Please show me where that has occurred in this thread?