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If you look closely, the bottom "white" wire,
it appears to have been red at one time.
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352.10 (H) Support of Conduit Bodies. Rigid nonmetallic conduit shall be permitted to support nonmetallic conduit bodies not larger than the largest trade size of an entering raceway. The conduit bodies shall not contain devices or support luminaires (fixtures) or other equipment.
352.12 Uses Not Permitted.
RNC shall not be used in the following locations.
(A) Hazardous (Classified) Locations.
(1) In hazardous (classified) locations, except as permitted in 503.3(A), 504.20, 514.8, and 515.8
(2) In Class I, Division 2 locations, except as permitted in 501.4(B), Exception
(B) Support of Luminaires (Fixtures). For the support of luminaires (fixtures) or other equipment not described in 352.10(H).(C) Physical Damage. Where subject to physical damage unless identified for such use.
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As with many of these photos, the primary problem seems to be the LOCATION of the work.
Perhaps the NEC needs to be a little more specific as to the expectation that things will be placed where they are not subject to mechanical damage, corrosion, etc. We need to be able to consider such things as lawn sprinklers, backing-up trucks, etc.
We also need to stress the accessibility of controls- not only to the operator, but locating them so that their use is apparent and the operator can monitor his efforts.
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...Now...Ive truly seen everything....that atrocity was still live..??
.."if it ain't fixed,don't break it...call a Licensed Electrician"
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This reminds me of when I was rewiring a traffic signal. The person at the factory must of had way too much White, 18AWG, AL wire, not copper-clad, AL. How do I know which is which besides tugging on them and seeing which one pulls in the next section. (Thank goodness the red had a red and res/white stripe wire.)
Is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?
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Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant
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I think I also see a little bit of red on that white wire. Any pics of the device in the box, if there was one?
Ian A.
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Truth of the matter Joe, That box should have been fixed to a pillar or the like. To take the wieght off of the conduits and the wiring. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.electrical-contractor.net/ubb/frown.gif) I think that maybe the PVC cement may have also been laid a bit thinly too. [This message has been edited by Trumpy (edited 07-08-2005).]
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I have many times seen RMC coming out of the ground, supporting a Bell box, which in turn supports a landscaping light fixture. I take it that those installations are all in violation of Code? Or is there a provision somewhere that allows that use?
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Rigid can be used as a support..the issue is whether any install has "enough" support,or is "suitable" for its' location.
The pic shows an install that clearly wasn't adequate, as it was damaged. The challenge is to either have a more robust construction, or to have some sort of barrier to guard it.
It comes down to the "Seven P's":
Proper
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