there was a 'tip out' sort of gizmo posted here once,looked very much a high end deal, i just can't find it. [Linked Image]

the only problem is, kitchen designers won't give most electricians the time of day, i have been party to many a window/counter design here that simply can't meet 210-52.

i'm tired of pissin' in the wind to peole who could care less....

~S~