Anyone know if the electrical industry has any standards of finish and placement?

Like those for sheet-rock http://www.nationalgypsum.com/resources/techtalk/revisiting.html

Some of the higher end work around here you need to specifiy level 5 finish at opening for certain trim-less lighting and screw-less wall plates. Otherwise you get screwed on the end, by having lumps or gaps at the openings.

What I was wondering, is there any simular "level" standard for placement tolorances to be recognized when bidding?

Say: Level 'X' = Zero tolorance of placement level and square....

or Level 'I' = Just sling it in anywhere, in general location.

The reason I ask, is that often you can get plans with general notes that say little if anything about for instance outlet hieghts. While your boxing for outlets you could go about it a few different ways. Same height AFF at the point of the outlet, or level from highest point in the room. (As I often have to do with some of the "in-base board, or really close to base board type designs) Anyway, you need to bid for that type of accuacy in lay-out, and precise placement. Say your bidding against someone whos just gonna sling it in. Hows that qualified in the bid?

Some of the trimless lighting coming out recently requires 5 trade/step coordination for any decent finish at them.

Like these: http://www.rsalighting.com/common/literature/rsa/recessedAndSurface/rsa_quietceiling_cat.pdf

The trim is mudded in. And if it doesn't sit absolutely flush at the face, it looks like garbage. The square trims - if they are not perfectly straight, and 'squared' up to each other, they look crooked, and it looks like garbage! (FYI if you see these on a spec - bid high - real high!) The can will run ~$200 ea. (less trim) and about an =/> amount (EACH) to get it in correctly! They have the cheapest thinest brackets around, and without additional support thay are all over the place. You need to lock them in place with addition hanger-bars. Once the rock is on you need to get there before mud, and tweek the trim to the face of rock. Then they mud it, and the trim has a cheap cardboard protector that allows mud in the trim that needs to be cleaned out. And then when they paint the edge and the trim, the thickness of even a light coat of paint is enough to not let the trim go in right. PITA!

So how do you quanify yourself as privy to the hassle of this, against someone who bid at cost of can, and blue-book labor for your average run of the mill H1499?~


Mark Heller
"Well - I oughta....." -Jackie Gleason