The humble pie post a few posts back got me thinking along a different line... what sort of hazing and abuse
did you have to put up with from those above you in age or experience while you
were coming up in the trade? In hindsight was it a good thing or bad? Anyone
think there might be a correlation between declining interest in the trades
overall with the kinda bullsh*t that the young and up-and-coming in the trades
are required to submit to as an accepted matter of course, and "just take it",
as delivered by the hands of those above them in years and experience?

Or, maybe the trades are just one of the few industries where different age
groups mix together (one doesnt find many 20ish types who are CEO's or senior
members of large corporations.. mostly they are peers- all 60ish old men who
more or less have most things in common) Maybe it is the wide spread of ages/
experience you find in the trades, having to work side by side that accounts
for some of the hard-ass, sometimes demeaning and surly culture and roughneck
style of passing along knowledge acquired through years of hard experience to
the younger set. It seems to be deeply ingrained in all the trades. I don't
mean to be a whiner, I am just curious how others might see
it..