I get everyone's point and what you say is right the greenies are far too millitant to be trusted I've only ever personally met a few but they were so nasty and unpleasant that even if I mite have had some sympathy with there veiws that went out the window within minutes of meeting them. Governments are also untrustworthy but some worse than others our current UK government couldn't be trusted to run a bath never mind a whole country.