Ahhh good to know Ed. I almost bought that one. CMS sent me a demo of ProEst - seems like a cool program - I just have trouble figuring it out and being motivated to use it - I mean - do you have to go into each item in the database and put the pricing in? Seems like a lot of work just to get something to do math for you...unless there is something I am really missing about the estiating software...