Virgil:
For what it's worth, I have the same feelings that you do regarding "the plans"
If it's a contractor or client that I don't know, it's simple...they do not get the plans! I give them a verbal description, and if the job is a "go" then the plans are available.

Fortunatly, most of my work is for regular clients, and "no bid". I do budget numbers, with design, get input from the involved "people", and work up specs. You may call it design/build or ???

I have one now thzt I'll be working on for a bit...50KSF, retail and/or office; possible 68 meters. Needs "new" everything. I have pics of the "old" service, just have to figure out how to get them into ECN. (I'm not "good" at that part of the 'puter.
John


John