From LK..."Honest and fair may not be a good measure, everyone has their own ideas on what is being honest, and fair, and being competive with others is a very dangerous business move, the other guy may have no idea of how to plan for profit, he may of never made a profit."

Competition on an 'even field' vs. competition from 'trunk slammers' is a ongoing problem. Survival (financial) in today's economy is a challenge to say the least. IMHO, those of us that have a good, solid business relationship with the GC's, owners, or clients that we service have a much better shot.

What some may or may not 'do' to keep the shop 'busy'..cut profits, do the job for 'cost' & wait for 'better days'?




John