The Nec your right is not Made for data as far as wire fill ect but its sure better then the way most do it. That is hold a bunch of wires in there hand and see how many fit in the pipe, forgetting they'll be pulling around bends and 90's. Been working for me for years pullings great. as far as Phone company a 25 pair in a 4 inch is a joke .That 4 inch at 51 percent fill would fit easly in a 1 1/4 inch . Thats just there way if we all went by fillpercentage instead of Geeee What well fit I;ll try this.

Last edited by Yoopersup; 02/23/08 10:19 PM.