Joe and Redsy, it sounds like we have a lot of the same rules about customers. I especially agree with Redsy about not doing unnecessary work. Just today I had a contractor (a large remodeler that I've been trying to get in with) ask me to put in a subpanel on the basement we were wirng. I pointed out that there were enough spaces in the existing panel and he didn't need the subpanel unless he just wanted it. He said don't do it and thanked me for the honesty and said his other electrician would've just done it to get the $$$. I'll bet the other electrician doesn't get too many more jobs from those guys.